Episode 278

#278 Helen Hanison: Outgrowing the Career Everyone Else Envies — Part Two

Published on: 7th April, 2025

So you’ve figured out your career isn’t working—now what? 

In Part Two, Helen brings in the big guns: her framework for getting unstuck, redesigning with purpose, and navigating the messy middle of change.

We unpack the real reasons people stay stuck, why perseverance isn’t always a virtue, and how to redesign a career that fits who you are now—not who you were five years ago. It’s part psychology, part strategy, and 100% relatable.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Three Acts of Career Redesign

“You cannot skip alignment. That’s the inner work—and it’s where most people rush or skip entirely.”

Helen breaks down the phases of Alignment, Redesign, and Transformation—and why each one matters.

Why Strengths Aren’t Enough

“If you only build around your strengths, you’re just building on sand.”

Strengths are great—but without alignment, they won’t carry you through a real change.

Hope Maps and the Myth of the Linear Path

“We confuse a hard day with the wrong direction. That’s where Hope Mapping comes in.”

How visualizing obstacles in advance helps you stick to the right path, not bail on it too soon.

Letting Go of the Career Lie

“We’ve been told perseverance is always noble—but sometimes, quitting is the smarter move.”

A fresh take on what it really means to be “resilient” in your career.

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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Helen Hanison

Helen's website: https://www.helenhanison.com

 

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