Episode 39

#39 Wayne Turmel on Remote and Hybrid Work: Would you return to office 5 days a week?

Published on: 26th September, 2024

Would you return to office 5 days a week?

Author of The Long Distance Leader, Wayne Turmel and I dive into a crucial topic: long-distance leadership in an era where communication technology is rapidly evolving for both workers and leaders. Yes, you read that right—long-distance leadership, not long-distance relationships. Just like with any relationship, maintaining, nurturing, and fixing long-distance leadership is far from straightforward.

This conversation couldn’t be more timely. When we recorded this episode, Amazon’s CEO had just announced their RTO (Return to Office) policy for 2025, and so far, the media narrative surrounding it hasn’t been exactly positive.

How can Wayne and his team provide solutions as remote and hybrid work models continue to change shape?

Episode Breakdown:

2:30—From performing on stage to helping leaders perform at work

4:54—Long-Distance Leadership: More Than Just a Long-Distance Relationship

8:06—From Pagers to Zoom: How Tech’s Evolution Transformed the Way We Lead and Manage Teams

13:51—New Challenges, New Solutions: What’s Different in the 2024 Edition Since the 2018 Release? (Book Link)

25:16—Amazon’s 2025 RTO Shuffle: How to Make the Office Comeback a Win for All

Connect with us:
Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Wayne Turmel

______________________

Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously.

Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives
Global Top 3% Podcast on Listen Notes
World's #1 Career Podcast on Apple

Top 1: US, CA, MX, IE, HU, AT, CH, FI
1.8 Million+ Downloads
50+ Countries

--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.

Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.

EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.
20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
80+ Countries Reached Daily.
Global Top 1% Podcast.
Top 5 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.

>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<

Next Episode All Episodes Previous Episode

Support Chief Change Officer™: Ensemble

A huge thank you to our supporters, it means a lot that you support our podcast.

If you like the podcast and want to support it, too, you can leave us a tip using the button below. We really appreciate it and it only takes a moment!
Support Chief Change Officer™: Ensemble
A
We haven’t had any Tips yet :( Maybe you could be the first!

Listen for free

Show artwork for Chief Change Officer™: Ensemble

About the Podcast

Chief Change Officer™: Ensemble
A public town hall for change, power, and reinvention
Chief Change Officer™: Ensemble is the free, public edition of Chief Change Officer™, the Global Top 1% flagship podcast created and hosted by Vince Chan.

Built from Vince’s one-on-one interviews with global leaders, scholars, founders, authors, researchers, executives, and change-makers, Ensemble brings together a powerful collection of conversations on work, leadership, reinvention, ambition, identity, and the forces reshaping modern life.

Since its launch in March 2024, the show has reached more than 30 million downloads and over half a million followers across Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and major podcast distribution platforms globally.

The public edition is free and open to all. New episodes will be added in Q3 2026. Going forward, Ensemble will serve as the public town hall for ambitious professionals, independent thinkers, lifelong learners, and anyone ready to understand change with greater clarity, confidence, and imagination.

The format will expand beyond interviews to include music, monologues, readings, writings, newsletters, courses, reflections, and curated audio experiences. True to its name, Ensemble will bring together many voices, formats, and ideas into one dynamic home for people who want to keep growing, thinking, and moving forward.

The premium version of Chief Change Officer™ will be upgraded and launched in Q3 2026, with new features, deeper programming, and selected offerings for more focused audiences. Expect more high-profile guests, sharper editorial curation, and expanded experiences designed for listeners who want to go beyond public conversations into a more elevated space for learning and reflection.

The launch of the premium version will be announced here. Stay tuned by following us wherever you hear your podcasts.
Support This Show

About your host

Profile picture for Vince Chan

Vince Chan